alienmind61
Light-Minute
Abduction
When I was 16 I was abducted. It was terrifying. Now, some 32 years later I still can't dwell on it. I typed out my story and decided not to post it. It's embarrassing. I will give the very toned down version.
I went to bed, I was having a dream that didn't make sense because I was feeling pretty extreme pain. I woke up and this horrible face was in my face and I was not in my bed. I wasn't able to move very much, or at all, and they had connected devices to me. I could see them and it was the most frightening thing I have ever experienced in my life. They were devoid of emotion and they began to try and get my mind back under their control, which they eventually did I suppose. I can't say what I'm not remembering because I'm too chicken to get hypnotized. Some things are better off not known.
This sounds crazy even to me and I wish it were otherwise. I'm just a normal person.
09-22-2011, alienmind61
Well, I would note something I didn't mention before. I didn't wake up with scars. I woke up with injuries that became scars. If it had not been for that I would have written it off as a really bad dream. I didn't tell anyone for ten years or so because I knew that it would sound insane. It sounds pretty damn insane now. I frikkin hate it. I'm a normal guy with normal friends and a normal life. Except that I have this event in my past that is totally outside of everyone's reality so, I have to keep it quiet. As a person with respect in the community, how do you say: "Oh, by the way, I was abducted by space aliens and they did stuff"? You don't.
What you do is play along. And on the extremely rare occasion that the topic comes up because of something on TV you just play along with the whole "yea, they are crazy thing." A million times I have told myself it was just a dream wishing that were true.  If it weren't for what I experienced that morning and the following days I would do that. Trust me, I can lie to myself as good as the next guy. It effects everything.
Think about this for example. I go to a normal church every Sunday for worship and every Wednesday for Bible study. You can imagine the philosophical issues.. Once you know something, you can't un-know it. Once you've seen something, you can't un-see it. What you are left with is trying to make sense of something when there's not enough information to make sense of it.
Did something else happen and my mind created these facts? How else can these injuries be explained? Where did the images that made up this story come from? I have been through all of this a million times. It's a dead end road. I'm stuck with it.
I have yet to meet another human being who has been through this. I hear that they are out there. What I don't need is some crazy who wishes they could meet a space alien. These are not nice people.
bethabara9
Abducted
I think the saving grace in my experience, was because of earlier experiences when I was younger, for several reasons.
One this was a different group, entirely.
But the rage, which has always been an undercurrent in me, that I can tap into in an instant, because of the earlier experiences, is what saved me this last time.
I say saved me, because it was clear, me and everyone on that ship wasn't coming back. A meat locker, without the ice. Hundreds of people and I couldn't get anyone awake but I was trying my level best to tear my foot out of the contraption that held it, while simultaneously try to catch a grey by the throat and strangle the lop headed bastard.
I broke my foot, cracked my shin and caused a good lump, trying to extradite myself.
In hindsight, it was almost comical. The grey was more animate than most, not to mention nimble and quick, because had I got hold of it, I would have popped those big eyes out in a second.
The nasty one, the one controlling it all, was a Nordic.
Just the mention of one, makes my blood boil.
Don't think he cared much for me, either. Tossed me off that ship, rather unceremoniously.
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 I have no memory of being taken to the ship. I simply became "aware" I was on it. Already leg locked into the device. In fact, the little grey was doing just that and apparently, by instinct, I wasn't being cooperative.
The instant I came completely aware, I went for his throat. Sheer, blind animal rage. No thought, no nothing but rage...little fart was quick or I was moving in slow motion one but my intent was fierce.
The more aware I became, the more I took in. Everytime he tried to finish clamping the leg latch, I grabbed at him, swung at him, screamed and I think hissed and growled...I was fighting like a wild beast.
I heard the Nordic, before I saw him. I heard him in my head, not with my ears and I realized I could hear their conversation. The minute he realized this, he commanded the little grey, to "GET her OFF the ship"
The comical part was the grey responded...."How?"
 The language part was weird. It wasn't in english, though I understood it in english. I cannot replicate the language but my mind instantly translated it.
I tried slapping a big guy next to me, I can still feel his flesh. As a nurse, I know the feel of unconscious flesh. It is different than someone who is awake and aware. I beat on him to, tried to push him, maybe create a domino effect but he wasn't budging, nor awakening. None of them were. row after row of unconscious people, standing like zombies in a half moon arc around the ship.
Which was beautiful, if it hadn't been so terrifying.
The Nordic came and physically knocked me out, he used a device which he touched to the back of my head.
Now the really crappy part, I was returned to my bed but not nicely. I awoke, three inches below the ceiling and fell to the mattress. I thought the bed broke.
Instantly, every animal I have, 2 of my cats, both my dogs. The german shepherd leapt to the bed the second I hit it. The Nordic did that for spite, I know it.
But I felt fear in him. I knew he didn't like the fact I could "hear" them. Secondly, my mind was racing when I came too. I thought, oh no they have found me. years ago, I believed a tracking device worked its way out of me and for years, felt they had "lost' me.
Only, he wasn't the one who placed it and his fear was obvious when he realized I "belonged" to the tall greys.
That was why he wanted me off the ship, before I could be tracked to it.
That is when I knew, this was an illegal ship. One way trip, these two were scavengers. And the term "meat locker" will not leave my mind.
I guess I owe a debt to the tall greys, because of them, these two were thwarted. I wouldn't hurt a tall grey, immediately. I don't think, but deep down, yes I would. I think my ability to "hear" these two, were because of past interactions with the tall greys. Whatever they did to me though, as a child and young adult, caused me enough fear to begin fighting them off before I was even conscious. Can't mess with me when I am asleep, almost like a a post war vet.
I'll stop here. Sorry to be long winded and sorry I took so long to get back.
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Alien Abductions
A contoversal topic in the alien/ufo community is the the subject, the concept, of alien abductions.
In a community that one would think should be open-minded, considering that many believe in the possibility of life on other planets, the concept of people being 'taken' is, for some, not possible, and the experiencer is often attacked. Remarks are often thrown at the poster that are along the lines of the experiencer having some sort physical, emotional or even spiritual 'problem'; or as some suggest, that it was a pure military action; in other words, that no alien lifeform could possibly be taking people against their will. This prevalent feeling also can, at times, take on an almost a 'pack mentality' in attacking and belittling the experiencer.
So the question remains. Are alien abductions real? If one intently looks at the evidence, which does exist, it would be illogical to dismiss all of the stories out of hand.  We can site different stories that have eye witness testimony, such as the Walton case, or the case of the Ted Rce; these are but two of some of the more 'famous' abduction cases. Articles and books abound that spend a lot of time in 'proving' the concept by citing such incidents, and while these are documented and so therefore may be more convincing that others, the stories that the anonymous posters have written are as much evidence as a mainstream news story. These posters have nothing to gain in most instances; tho skeptics may state things like the concept of 'someone making some money from it', in fact, those cases are few and far between. Many posters are adamant about remaining anonymous, which further leads credibility to their encounters.
More and more experiencers are coming forward and telling their stories; no monetary or notoriety is sought. Logic tells us that if one person witnesses something, there is then testimonial evidence that something occured. Consider these comments made in a thread concerning the validity of eye-witness testimony:
'...but it is not logical to discount every last report. The question has to be asked too...how unreliable are they...AND...to what degree?'
'....True ancedotal evidence has little scientific value. but we do not have over 10,000 humanoid reports and hundreds of thousands of UFO reports stricktly due to misidentifications and natural phenomena. There are a percentage that defy conventional explanations and there are many cases that, all but scream, ET was here'
'it's part of the disinformation campaign that everybody talks about but they can't see it. A real UFO sighting for some reason remains very vivid in the memory.The one i saw in 1963 is as vivid today as it was then.no loss of memory at all in fact the memory is sharpened.this is a little known trait of a real UFO sighting.The dis info comes in when people are instructed that "you know peoples memory's fade over time".Well fact is if their memory did fade then they didn't see a real UFO'
Therefore, considering the amount of personal testimony which states that these abductions occurred, one could logically come to the conclusion that the amount of witnesses to this phenomena gives it a credibility factor which should not be ignored.
A concept that will undoubabley have many naysayers, this idea is necessary in order to move forward and to be able to truly gather the data, and possibly find a soluton to the problem. If we spend years even questioning of whether or not it exists, the chances of the actually halting what could very well be a horrific violation of human rights will be nil; these actions will continue with often disastrous results.
For example, the abductee may experience what is known as post abduction syndrone; a recent thread in our forum discusses it further:
Altria
Post subject: Post Abduction SyndromePosted: 10 May 2012 18:16
Joined: 07 May 2012 16:32
http://youarenotalone.freeforums.org/post-abduction-syndrome-t33.html
PAS in most instances is the result of the sense or memory of being taken away by force or without consent by extraterrestrial or inter-dimensional entities and the associated physically intrusive or invasive procedures by these alleged entities. The Abductee will have a perceived fear of actual or threatened death, serious injury  (APA, 1994), threat to their physical integrity. They may witness the abduction of another person, may learn about or have close association with the abduction experiences of a family member or other closely associated person. The person's response to the events must involve intense fear, helplessness, or horror (APA, 1994). In a child or adult with underdeveloped personality structure, the response may manifest as disorganized or agitated behaviors.
Characteristic Symptoms
• Persistent re-experiencing of the traumatic event characterized by flashbacks (APA, 1994)
• Persistent avoidance of stimuli associated with the trauma (APA, 1994)
• Denial of the event
• Labeling the event something else-"blackout", being lost, etc.
• Refraining from sleep at the time contact occurred-sleeping in the daytime
• Emotional reaction to literature, pictures, or videos about alien entities e.g. turning over books with a picture of an alien or UFO which may include avoiding them. (Bryant, 1991)
• Phobic avoidance of situations that remind the person of abduction such as: elevators, escalators, doctor's offices, physician's procedures (many women avoid gynecological exams or become extremely anxious when gynecological procedures are performed), dentist's chairs and procedures. (Jacobs, 1992)
• Persons with PAS may engage in avoidance of medical care to the detriment of their health.
• Substance Abuse/Dependence in an effort to self medicate, to reduce anxiety or sleep which may start at an early age
• Constant searching for answers to questions they may not be able to voice (conversation, Jacobs, 1999)
• Insomnia, trembling, muscle aches and soreness, muscle twitches, clammy hands, dry mouth, generalized tachycardia and subjective sense of palpitations, dizziness, hyperventilation or difficulty breathing, urinary frequency, dysphagia, abdominal pain, diarrhea, possible hypertension
• In females: gynecological problems, possible positive pregnancy tests with unexplainable missing fetuses, unexplainable appearance of strange lesions, scars, bruises, or burns (especially genital) (conversation, Jacobs, 1999), abdominal tenderness, abdominal adhesions, malposition of ovaries, joint or back pain without memory of physical injury, sinus problems, and possible eye irritations.
Children might harbor the belief that they will not grow up to be adults. Children might also be exposed to witnessing the abduction of their parents generating feelings of shock, intense fear, and anger that their parents are unable to protect them. They may also harbor the belief that they in some way caused their parents or siblings to be abducted.
http://aliensandchildren.org/post_abduction_syn.htm
So what are some of the defenses a possible abductee can use to thwart these occurances? Though there are sites that abound with the concept that these beings are not other lifeforms from other planets and that calling on Jesus will 'make the demons' go away, this concept does not take into account that fact of millions of eye-witness testimony and government documents to the contrary. And, as far as any mass effort at prevention of this phenomena such as armed resistance, this also is not an apparent solution, if we are still debating whether or not it exists.
So it is left to the experiencer themselves to somehow overcome this phenomena; however, one of the issues that most posters relate is the overwhelming fear they feel; the uncontrollable paralysis that physically overtakes them.
A recent thread on the forum discusses the 'fear factor' :
http://youarenotalone.freeforums.org/you-are-the-captain-of-your-soul-t15.html
As the stories in this edition illustrate, it appears that when the experiencers overcame this fear, they were able to thwart these abductions. In our article this month, 'Fear Itself' sagewillow discusses techniques that may help the experincer to get better control of the issue.
It is human nature to want to be free and perhaps if abductees learn to take control we will have a beginning of stopping these unwanted intrusions into our lives.
-by julia-
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